Ziay!

takurofromjapan · 07-11-2008, 11:00 PM

well, it seems mathematics advanced us to today's technologies.and it seems to reveal a lot of patterns in the nature. are they discovered by human provided they were used by someone else to create this world ,or they are just genius invention of our ancestor that became a tool to unuderstand how things work in this world in our
language???

love_bubbles · 07-12-2008, 02:00 AM

mathematics was invented...and through that operations was discovered...

cadet_tigercub · 07-12-2008, 08:47 AM

Math was invented

Snapizzle · 07-12-2008, 08:48 AM

Door number three. Though most math you learn (unless you become a mathmatition or engineer or something) you don't actually use in real life. (I mean besides school.)
Don't tell your math teacher that though- they get pretty mad.
...I learned that the hard way.

rt11guru · 07-12-2008, 08:50 AM

Some of each.
Things like counting, addition, subtraction, exist because objects exist. Multiplication and division are just shorthand for repeated addition and subtraction, so they are an invention.

I think that things like fractions and irrationals are inventions of man to extend the integers to align with the world as we understand it.

However, every time you invent an extension, you create a whole new system with properties to be discovered. For example, when you extend the rational numbers by adding the irrationals, you put yourself in a position to discover countable and uncountable sets.

When define limits and infinte sums, and add them to your arithmetic, you can then discover calculus.

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07-12-2008, 02:00 AM	#2
love_bubbles Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1	mathematics was invented...and through that operations was discovered...

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cadet_tigercub Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1	Math was invented

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Snapizzle Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1	Door number three. Though most math you learn (unless you become a mathmatition or engineer or something) you don't actually use in real life. (I mean besides school.) Don't tell your math teacher that though- they get pretty mad. ...I learned that the hard way.

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rt11guru Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	Some of each. Things like counting, addition, subtraction, exist because objects exist. Multiplication and division are just shorthand for repeated addition and subtraction, so they are an invention. I think that things like fractions and irrationals are inventions of man to extend the integers to align with the world as we understand it. However, every time you invent an extension, you create a whole new system with properties to be discovered. For example, when you extend the rational numbers by adding the irrationals, you put yourself in a position to discover countable and uncountable sets. When define limits and infinte sums, and add them to your arithmetic, you can then discover calculus.

Ziay!

are mathematics discovered or invented??

are mathematics discovered or invented??